Paragon shouts affect minions? - Guild Wars Forums

Sowaka · Nov 11, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

I was wondering... would a Paragon shout affect a necromancers minions? I have made a necromancer in Nightfalls and I'm trying to decide on a secondary profession and so far a Necro/Para seems like a pretty nice build... but would it actually work out okay? Would there be any problems that I run into?

Also, do minions count as allies? I recall a paragon skill that heals you for 10 health for each ally within earshot but I dont know if minions would count as allies.

I was also wondering about the hero skill trainer... are all the skills you learn free? I read something about hero skill points but I cant find them anywhere... where do I go to see how many hero skill points I have? And... where do I trade in battle commendations? Someone in the game said something about trading them in to someone but didnt elaborate on it.

Nilator · Nov 11, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

Technically, they would be allies. So I'm almost positive the shouts should effect them.

Shadowfox1125 · Nov 11, 2006, 04:59 AM // 04:59

I'm fairly certain that the minions are affected. In the Paragon or Necro section, Zinger made a thread about this and I remember it saying in the thread that they are affected.

Oh a GW forum · Nov 11, 2006, 05:53 AM // 05:53

They are effected by "Charge" so I would say yes, any should that effects allies should effect them.

Tetris L · Nov 11, 2006, 06:39 AM // 06:39

1) Yes, minions are allies.
2) Yes, shouts and chants affect all allies. That includes NPC, pets and minions, not just party members.

exiled mat · Nov 11, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27

So, according to that other topic, a N/P could be devestating with Go For The Eyes!

Caelus The Fallen · Nov 11, 2006, 12:22 PM // 12:22

Just remember that many of the "Ally" shouts require that ally to do something like cast a spell or use a skill to activate the skill. Minions will get the shout on them but wont be able to do whats needed to use them. There are some nice ones that they can use however, like Go For The Eyes, Find Their Weakness and Never Surreneder (off the top of my head).

Zamochit · Nov 11, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

It sounds like leaders comfort will be a huge self heal for a paragon with an MM in his party too.

very good to know

Erudition · Nov 11, 2006, 12:32 PM // 12:32

AFAIK Leader's Comfort has a limit.. But I'm not too sure on that

psycho854 · Nov 11, 2006, 12:37 PM // 12:37

has a limit i guess at 140!

but its a good idea to go for N/P believe that could be usefull. espiecially with the ranged minions (fiends). but u can simply try out. make one minion and compare the healing of leaders comfort with the minion in range and the minion dead. then u know if theyre affected

so far
psycho

Cow Tale · Nov 11, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31

do warrior shouts affect minnions too then?

ive asked a few necros ingame and theyve all said no? are they wrong?

darkMishkin · Nov 11, 2006, 03:13 PM // 15:13

The trouble with Leader's Comfort is that it is from the Paragon's primary attribute. Great for Paragons in MM groups, but not as reliable as Heal Area on a MM's skill bar.

RPGmaniac · Nov 11, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04

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Originally Posted by Oh a GW forum

They are effected by "Charge" so I would say yes, any should that effects allies should effect them.

that would mean that warrior shouts affect them

if u really want to find out though, bring a skill like mending refrain and see if the minions health is affected

Nov 11, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#1
Sowaka Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: British Columbia	Paragon shouts affect minions? I was wondering... would a Paragon shout affect a necromancers minions? I have made a necromancer in Nightfalls and I'm trying to decide on a secondary profession and so far a Necro/Para seems like a pretty nice build... but would it actually work out okay? Would there be any problems that I run into? Also, do minions count as allies? I recall a paragon skill that heals you for 10 health for each ally within earshot but I dont know if minions would count as allies. I was also wondering about the hero skill trainer... are all the skills you learn free? I read something about hero skill points but I cant find them anywhere... where do I go to see how many hero skill points I have? And... where do I trade in battle commendations? Someone in the game said something about trading them in to someone but didnt elaborate on it.

Nov 11, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27	#2
Nilator Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: Mo/	Technically, they would be allies. So I'm almost positive the shouts should effect them.

Nov 11, 2006, 04:59 AM // 04:59	#3
Shadowfox1125 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PST Profession: W/	I'm fairly certain that the minions are affected. In the Paragon or Necro section, Zinger made a thread about this and I remember it saying in the thread that they are affected.

Nov 11, 2006, 05:53 AM // 05:53	#4
Oh a GW forum Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Profession: W/	They are effected by "Charge" so I would say yes, any should that effects allies should effect them.

Nov 11, 2006, 06:39 AM // 06:39	#5
Tetris L Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Guild: Servants of Fortuna	1) Yes, minions are allies. 2) Yes, shouts and chants affect all allies. That includes NPC, pets and minions, not just party members.

Nov 11, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27	#6
exiled mat Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The netherlands > friesland > balk Guild: [JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo Profession: E/Me	So, according to that other topic, a N/P could be devestating with Go For The Eyes!

Nov 11, 2006, 12:22 PM // 12:22	#7
Caelus The Fallen Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Guild: Voice of the Darkness Profession: E/Mo	Just remember that many of the "Ally" shouts require that ally to do something like cast a spell or use a skill to activate the skill. Minions will get the shout on them but wont be able to do whats needed to use them. There are some nice ones that they can use however, like Go For The Eyes, Find Their Weakness and Never Surreneder (off the top of my head).

Nov 11, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29	#8
Zamochit Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: N/A	It sounds like leaders comfort will be a huge self heal for a paragon with an MM in his party too. very good to know

Nov 11, 2006, 12:32 PM // 12:32	#9
Erudition Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Q&A section Guild: Unique Warriors [UnWr]	AFAIK Leader's Comfort has a limit.. But I'm not too sure on that

Nov 11, 2006, 12:37 PM // 12:37	#10
psycho854 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Europe CET Guild: The Smurfs Guild	has a limit i guess at 140! but its a good idea to go for N/P believe that could be usefull. espiecially with the ranged minions (fiends). but u can simply try out. make one minion and compare the healing of leaders comfort with the minion in range and the minion dead. then u know if theyre affected so far psycho

Nov 11, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31	#11
Cow Tale Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ocean Shores, Washington Guild: Last Sun Rise Profession: W/Mo	do warrior shouts affect minnions too then? ive asked a few necros ingame and theyve all said no? are they wrong?

Nov 11, 2006, 03:13 PM // 15:13	#12
darkMishkin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: Mo/	The trouble with Leader's Comfort is that it is from the Paragon's primary attribute. Great for Paragons in MM groups, but not as reliable as Heal Area on a MM's skill bar.